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Frequently Asked Questions

GOTH.NET (0)

If you just wish to browse the GOTH.NET website and/or forums, no, you do not need to register an account.  However if you wish to interact with GOTH.NET more fully, you must register an account.  Registration is required to submit content to the website, to join groups (and for private groups, see the group content at all), comment on website content, have your own blog, statuses and relationships, or to post on the forums.

Registration is simple and easy, and only requires you have a working email address.

At the top of the page, under the search box, there is a Login and a Register link.  If you click the Register link, and enter the required information (eg. your username and email address), you will begin the registration process.  The system will send you an email with a link to complete your registration.  You must click this link in order to setup a password for use on the site and activate your account.

With the website relaunch of 2015, we have integrated the GOTH.NET forums and the web site (as much as we can given the differences in the two applications).  If you already had a forums account before the relaunch, you do not need to register a new account on the website.  Simply login with your forums username and password.  If you are having difficulty logging in with your forums username and password, please contact us and we will look into the issue.

If you forget your password, please go to the registration screen (using the Register link under the search box), click on the 'Request new password' tab and follow the directions on screen.  If you still cannot create a new password to log into the site, then contact us and we will investigate the issue.

Yes.  GOTH.NET stopped accepting new application for webspace and email addresses back in 2007, and over time many of the accounts that had been created had been abandoned.  Due to us wanting to integrate all of our services with a common account, we decided not to migrate over the old webspace and email accounts.  So if you did not also have a forums account, you will be required to register a new account.

Historically, the forums were more permissive about the characters allowed in a username.  Indeed, any valid UTF-8 string was accepted.  The website is more restrictive about the format and content of a username.

You must either register a new username on the website (which will then be active on the forums), or contact us and we will rename your user on the forums to a valid username, after which you can login to the website with that username.

Note that if you choose to register a new username, you will not be able to use the same email address as you currently have associated with the existing username (ie. if you wish to use the same email address, you MUST contact us to have that account renamed).

GOTH.NET accepts submissions from the community of four types of content.

Art is for artistic works created by artists in the gothic community or that are relevant to it.  When submitting art, you may submit an audio file (eg. music, a pod cast, etc), a video, a written work (eg. stories, poetry, etc) or create an image gallery and submit images to it.

Community is for submitting resources for local (geographically centered) goth communities.  Most often these include clubs, stores, or other places that goths in that area may wish to frequent.  This is not a section for global or web-only resources, but specifically for people to find out how their gothic needs may be served in their local area.

Links is for submitting web links.  This could be for gothic online stores, or portals or any website that caters to or is of interest to goths online.

Groups is for content relating to user-created interest groups.  These are described in more detail in another section of the FAQ.

Content on GOTH.NET goes through three stages.

First, when you submit it, it will be in the draft stage.  Only you can see this content, and it is not eligible for moderation, however you may modify and tweak it until you think it is ready for review.  When this is done you may set it's Moderation State to 'Needs Review' (some sections, such a links often skip the draft stage).

All content that is to be published on the website (excluding some interest groups) must be moderated before it may be posted publicly.  Once your content is in the 'Needs Review' stage, our moderation staff will be able to see it as eliglble to be reviewed for publication.  We try and do a prompt job of moderating the submitted content, but we are people too, and volunteers at that.

When a moderator reviews your content, they will perform one of three actions.

  1. They will approve it, publishing it to the main website and your content is visible to the world (this is the final stage).
  2. They will move it back to the draft state, indicating it needs more work or refinement before it can be published (usually they will also contact you to tell you what needs to change before it is re-submitted for review).
  3. They will delete it outright - for content that is completely inappropriate or undesirable on GOTH.NET.

If you wish to modify your content in the future, you may do so by creating a new draft that will go through the above steps again, however the current, published version will remain on the website until the revision has been approved.

This can happen for one of two reasons.

The most likely is that your content is still in the 'Draft' state.  You must change the moderation state to 'Needs Review' before our moderators will be able to see it and review it for publication.

The other is that our moderators have not gotten around to your content yet to review it for publication.

Please keep in mind that if the content in question has been submitted to an interest group (instead of the Art, Community or Links sections), the moderators for your content might not be GOTH.NET staff, but are instead entirely determined by the manager of that interest group.

Groups (4)

Interest groups are somewhat like complete sub-sites inside of GOTH.NET.  Members can create or sign up to interest groups, and content can be submitted that is relevant to that interest group.  An interest group could be for something like a band, or a TV show, or anything that goths might be interested in discussing.

Interest groups have their own distinct content from the website as a whole.  Articles, blog entries, image galleries, events and polls can all be posted to individual interest groups.

Managers of individual interest groups can control who is allowed to publish to that interest group, who the moderators of that content are, and the visibility (ie. members only publicly viewable).

To create a group you must first have permission to do so (by default, all members have this permission, but it may be revoked and in the future, it may not be granted by default in the future).  Assuming you do, you must navigate to the 'Create group' tab on the groups page.

Creating a group is much like creating content in other sections (meaning they are moderated and must be approved to be 'live').  The group body should be where you describe what your interest group is about - it's focus, who should join and the direction you intend it to go in.  You can also specify here whether your group is public or private (for private groups, by default only members will be able to see the content within - some individual content may override this setting).  You may also specify if you wish to follow the standard permissions model (recommended!) or wish to customize your groups permissions.

Once your group has been moderated by GOTH.NET staff and approved, it will appear on the public group list and others may join your group, and you may begin posting content to it.

Each group manages who can do what in that group individually.  This is managed by a combination of two mechanisms, roles and permissions.  Roles indicate what access a member has within the group, and permissions define what each role can actually do.

Most groups will (and should) use the standard set of permissions.  This sets up 6 standard roles, and the permissions for them.

The standard roles are:

  • Non-Member, a user on the site (or anonymous user) who is not a member of the group.
  • Member, a user who is a member of the group - all members will have this role, regardless of any other roles assigned to them.
  • Publisher, a member who is allowed to submit content to the group (it must stil be moderated).
  • Moderator, a member who has access to see submitted content, review it, approve or reject it for publication to the group.
  • Manager, a member who can invite other users, or approve requests to join a group.
  • Administration Members, members who are the equivalent of the group owner, and can control everything about the group (including assigning roles to members).

The standard set of permissions sets up sane defaults for most groups to allow smooth operation of a group.  A group may, however, select to use customized permissions and roles (if a group wishes to do this, the group manager must edit the main group page to change this option from 'Use default roles and permissions' to 'Override default roles and permissions.')  This would allow a group to do things such as allow users to join without being approved first, or allow all users to post content without being a publisher, or even without requiring moderation.  This is recommended only for group managers who really know what they are doing.

No.  Content in interest groups is designed to be displayed in that group only.  There is nothing stopping you from posting the same content in a second group, however for management purposes (including who has permission to moderate and/or comment on the posting) it is simpler to keep all group content confined to a single group.

Email (2)

For now, we are not yet opening up @goth.net email addresses for members.  We will be making these available in the future, however some custom coding and other things must be put in place before this can happen.

If you previously had an email @goth.net, you should contact us.  Your data has not been lost!

We can re-enable your goth.net email account, however you will have to have an account on the website (or forums, since they are linked) before we can do so.  Once you contact us we will send you an email with what information we need to re-establish your @goth.net email account.

This is not available to all members currently as it is a manual and labor intensive process at the moment, so we are only offering this service to members who previously had @goth.net email accounts.

Webspace (3)

For now, we are not yet offering home pages on GOTH.NET for members.  We will be adding this feature again in the future, however some custom coding and other things must be put in place before this can happen.

If you previously had a home page hosted on GOTH.NET, you should contact us.  Your data has not been lost!

We can re-enable your home page on GOTH.NET (at the same URL), however you will first have to have an account on the main website (or forums, since they are linked) before we can do so.  Once you contact us we will send you an email with what information we need to re-establish your home page on GOTH.NET.

This is not available to all members currently as it is a manual and labor intensive process at the moment, so we are only offering this service to members who previously had web space on GOTH.NET.

Previously, we did offer subdomains of GOTH.NET (eg. www.yoursite.goth.net).  We have decided to discontinue this service for now.  We may in the future decide to once again offer subdomains, but for now we will not be.

There were never all that many of them, and these days buying your own domain name is extremely cheap.  We will, in the future, be offering to host your domain on our server (for a fee), however the logistics of this and the pricing has not yet been determined.

General (3)

This is one of the questions that gets asked the most. In the shortest definition it is a subculture that evolved from a musical scene to encompass art, literature, fashion and a shared 'dark aesthetic'. For further information about it, please read the "What is Goth?" page on the GOTH.NET site. Also, please refer to the section on the Gothic subculture at <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/goth.htm">religioustolerance.org<a>.

There are also historical references to Gothic, including a germanic tribe dating back to the roman era, an architectural style and also a style in literature. These generally have little to do directly with the subculture, though many Goths enjoy the architectural and literary styles bearing the same name and the aesthetic similarities lended the name of the previous styles to the current subculture.

Just a final comment... you will probably find as many different explanations of what Goth is to the many participants within the scene. The scene generally is the sum of these various definitions, and there is no one true definition that will cover what it means to all those who are involved.

Generally if you wear and/or the exterior trappings that go with the subculture, and your musical interests reflect bands that are recognised within the scene and you feel at home within the scene and with it's members and their views and outlooks on life, you might possibly be Gothic.

Please don't get obsessed by fitting the label, truth be told that many people who are Goth or who associate themselves with the scene don't call themselves Goths because they find it too limiting or find that others stereotype them based on that one label, rather than seeing the sum of the parts. Too often there are people that try too hard to fit the label and completely pass by the fact that being Goth is as much about being yourself and finding your own path rather than rigidly trying to fit the stereotypes.

Also, remember that "in the scene" generally means goths who are usually over 18, go gothic clubbing, and have several years experience within the subculture.

This is a question I've fielded from some very young Goths from time to time. The general answer to all of them is NO. As with many things in the scene, or life in general, participation in such behaviour is something you need to decide for yourself as a personal choice... it is NOT a requirement to the scene. If people are pressuring you into doing any of these things when you'd rather not, I suggest you find some other friends/people to hang out with.

There are no real gothic drugs. A popular gothic stereotype is smoking clove cigarettes, but then again, many don't smoke at all. People think that absinthe could be considered a gothic drink, but only in the romantic, poetic, "Walter Mitty" sense. I don't know too many goths who are willing to imbibe absinthe (mostly because the taste is disgusting). As for sex, I don't think there are too many people who have sex because they're gothic. If people have sex it's because they have sex. Gothic people just tend to be more tolerant of certain sexual practices like homosexuality and BDSM. It doesn't mean that all goths are gay or bi or whip eachother, it's just they understand if someone wants to do that with another person and that it's none of their business. Society has taken this out of context and stereotyped goths as all being into 'kinky' sex, a stereotype that has played well recently for the MTV audience. And if someone tells you "all goths do (fill in the blank)" then you should pretty much ignore them, because everyone is different in their own way and groups of people can't be pigeon-holed into stereotypes.
 

Fashion (3)

While black is the predominant colour within the subculture, you don't have to wear all black all the time if you don't want to. Many goths wear items in jeweltone colours (dark blues, reds, purples, greens) or grey alongside the black. And there are quite a few Goths who have even made white look very gothic. So don't let that stop you either.

All black is boring. And sometimes, depending on your skin colorations, black is not a color for you. It might even make you look sallow. If black does this to you, then don't wear it. If you're wearing black to be gothic, you're missing the point. You want to look attractive in your eyes. If wearing black close to your face yellows your skin, don't do it. Stick to jeweltones like burgundy, forest green or dark blue. Wear what makes you look attractive. Not what makes you look gothic.

No, it doesn't. If you don't like or don't feel comfortable wearing pvc and vinyl, don't. If you feel silly wearing period clothing, don't. Develop your own style based on what you like and what you feel comfortable in. For some this means historical clothing, for others it's the more industrial stompy boot look and for others again it's black pants and a Bauhaus t-shirt.

Only if you want them. The same advice goes for just about anything else, like whether you need to have black long hair or if you need to smoke/drink/do drugs to be considered a Goth.

Also remember that a lot of piercings connotes to some people that you are a masochist and you do it for sexual pleasure. To some, piercings are not a fashion statement. They're an advertisement. The same goes for tattoos. So get something if you think it will be attractive on you. Highlight areas of your body that are attractive with little bits of metal if you want, but going overboard looks silly. Also, if you are underage, get parental consent. If a studio is busted for piercing a minor, it could put them out of business, so be courteous, respectful, and responsible.

Remember also that a piercing or tattoo studio that will pierce or tattoo minors without parental consent is breaking the law... and stop to consider the fact that if they don't take the law too seriously, then what else they might not be taking too seriously. You really do not want to get body modifications done at a place that is lacking in responsibility for the legal system or hygiene. Get your modifications done at a good respectable place. If you cannot afford their rates wait and save your money! it is not worth running the risk of getting things like Hepatitus for a cheap modification... or a crappy quality tattoo or badly placed piercing.

Music (1)

The obvious answer here would be "whatever you like" as you'll never enjoy something that you're forced to listen to. If you want starting points for music within the Gothic genre, I'd recommend starting with some of the bands that started it all and remain the main staple including, but not limited to: Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, The Cure, Christian Death, Clan of Xymox.

Other things that I recommend are compilation cd's or box sets like the Goth Box (Cleopatra), This Is Goth (Cleopatra), Monsters of Goth (Cleopatra) or the Unquiet Grave series (Cleopatra) and compilations/label samplers like those put out by Neue Aesthetic Multimedia (Blackout A.D., Towards the Sky) and Projekt. You're sure to find some artists in the mass that are presented on these discs that will appeal to you so you can explore further.

You also don't have to like everything. Some people love Bauhaus and can't stand the Sisters, that's all a matter of personal preference. Then there's people who lean more heavily towards darkwave, or ethereal, or ebm or industrial or deathrock. Choose your own path amongst the many out there.



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