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FIB: LOL! That's unreal! If Ayn Rand cures bladder infections, what do works by Nietzsche help treat? :P


Nietzsche's works treat bladder infections, too. Because, you know, when you gaze long into a piss...

-- Nephele, who may have misheard that quote, perhaps.


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Nephele wrote:
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FIB: LOL! That's unreal! If Ayn Rand cures bladder infections, what do works by Nietzsche help treat? :P


Nietzsche's works treat bladder infections, too. Because, you know, when you gaze long into a piss...

-- Nephele, who may have misheard that quote, perhaps.

:lol:
I'll never be able to read that line without thinking of this now!!

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Nephele wrote:
orlok wrote:
FIB: LOL! That's unreal! If Ayn Rand cures bladder infections, what do works by Nietzsche help treat? :P


Nietzsche's works treat bladder infections, too. Because, you know, when you gaze long into a piss...

-- Nephele, who may have misheard that quote, perhaps.


The piss gazes long into you! :lol:

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I just almost suffocated on a piece of chocolate :(
That will mess up my head for a while, I've been to a psychiatrist cos I have almost paranoia of suffocating..oh well, I've learnt to manage it myself


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To be fair, we're supposed to be dead by our 40's anyway. SCREW YOU NATURAL WORLD! We're playing by OUR rules now! MWAHAHAHAHA!

Er... not really. When you remove cases of infant mortality and people who got sick and died before the age of fifteen or so (or eaten by bears and other things, I'd presume), worldwide life expectancy has only increased by about fifteen years, since the paleolitic era. ;-) Granted, life expectancy is an average, meaning it's thrown off by extremes and tends to meet in the middle, but the idea that ancient peoples were somehow lucky to make it into their forties is merely a widespread misconception that even Classics professors seem to make (in my experiences). :-)
Using the numbers on Wikipedia there your maths is off from 15-20 years.....


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I just almost suffocated on a piece of chocolate :(
That will mess up my head for a while, I've been to a psychiatrist cos I have almost paranoia of suffocating..oh well, I've learnt to manage it myself

Oh dear, as much as we are fasinated by it, death is not a good thing!!

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You don't know how many people around me think we enjoy death...
One of my teachers had a talk with me about suicide cos my poems were bit dark. I said 'It's art, you should know that'
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I get that too. Just because my computer background is a graveyard, I wear more black in one day then most people do in a month, and all the music I listen to is about death, does not mean I want to die. In fact, under my belief system, I am utterly indifferent to my death.

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I get that too. Just because my computer background is a graveyard, I wear more black in one day then most people do in a month, and all the music I listen to is about death, does not mean I want to die. In fact, under my belief system, I am utterly indifferent to my death.


I follow much the same, except I view death as purely a "release."

Whether or not you get to see something pretty (or ugly) after you die is up in the air.

I do believe in a rough sense of "good versus evil" but it's so far removed from what the storybooks and especially Hollywood paint it as. I believe in a dualism for both good and evil. Like, there are those who may be considered "evil" but probably register more as anti-villains or even an anti-hero at best. Life's not a comic book, nor is it a Hollywood production. Sometimes the "good" can be just as awful as the perceived "evil" doers. An example of this are the old Salem witch-trials or the Spanish Inquisition. Here we have two groups of people that became fanatical about their beliefs; turning what is supposed to be a loving and accepting religion into one of war and terror. What Al-Qaeda has done to Islam is much the same way.

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My view on death is simple. I can't stop it, so why worry? Furthermore, after I'm dead I won't care, becuase I'll be where the flame goes after the candle is blown out.

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Arquinsiel wrote:
FairyInBoots wrote:
Arquinsiel wrote:
To be fair, we're supposed to be dead by our 40's anyway. SCREW YOU NATURAL WORLD! We're playing by OUR rules now! MWAHAHAHAHA!

Er... not really. When you remove cases of infant mortality and people who got sick and died before the age of fifteen or so (or eaten by bears and other things, I'd presume), worldwide life expectancy has only increased by about fifteen years, since the paleolitic era. ;-) Granted, life expectancy is an average, meaning it's thrown off by extremes and tends to meet in the middle, but the idea that ancient peoples were somehow lucky to make it into their forties is merely a widespread misconception that even Classics professors seem to make (in my experiences). :-)
Using the numbers on Wikipedia there your maths is off from 15-20 years.....

Are you excluding cases of mortality up to age fifteen, like I did? I mean, yeah, I barely passed Algebra I, but my skills at maths aren't that terrible. :lol:

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In fact, under my belief system, I am utterly indifferent to my death.

As am I --still prefer life, though. ;-)

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My view on death is simple. I can't stop it, so why worry? Furthermore, after I'm dead I won't care, because I'll be where the flame goes after the candle is blown out.

That's a great way to put it. :D

I mean, sure, I subscribe to the ancient Hellenic (Greek) model of Elysium (for the especially good) - Kingdom of Hades (for most people) - Tartaros (for the especially bad --and where Hitler gets a pineapple up his Hole every six hours[1]), but as a philosophy student of Cyreniac empiricisms-scepticism, I have to admit that I cannot say for sure where anybody goes, nor can I say for certain that a soul even exists, as it's a well-established fact that our minds lie to us. I can only do my best in this lifetime, and hope for the best when it's over, whenever that may be and there's no sense in worrying about it. When the Fates say it's time to go, it's time.

1: OK, that might just be my belief...

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I found that sentance on the internet, I don't remember where. It was at a time when I was really wondering about the nature of death, especially my own. I really struck a chord with me, and I think I'll always remember it. If I can format it well, I may get it tattoo'd somewhere.

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Goth-Ninja wrote:
I found that sentance on the internet, I don't remember where. It was at a time when I was really wondering about the nature of death, especially my own. I really struck a chord with me, and I think I'll always remember it. If I can format it well, I may get it tattoo'd somewhere.


Speaking of tattoos, I'm thinking of getting an homage to Nosferatu on me one day.

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I've been meaning to see that movie, do you think I should watch the original 1930s (?) version, or the 70s version?

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I've been meaning to see that movie, do you think I should watch the original 1930s (?) version, or the 70s version?

1922 was when F.W. Murnau did Nosferatu. :-)

Both versions are worth seeing, in my opinion, cos Werner Herzog went in a different direction with his version. Murnau's is pretty much, well, Dracula changed just enough to keep the Stoker's widow from suing for copyright infringement (long story short: Florence Stoker sued anyway, was successful, and in spite of a court order to destroy the film, several copies managed to survive complete and with little damage). Herzog's goes a bit more existentialist and is more of a psychological horror, if that makes sense. Herzog's also renames the characters to match up with their counterparts in Dracula (mostly), but again, it's more is a philosophical tribute to Murnau's 1922 film than a re-telling of Bram Stoker's famous novella.

Also, some trivia: The German and English language versions of Herzog's Nosferatu are not an "original language" and "overdub", respectively. :-) Each scene was filmed in German and then refilmed in English, and the translation from German to English is about as perfect as can be --some overdubbed films suffer in translations, but this one doesn't. On the other hand, a lot of Herzog buffs --or film fans, in general-- are of the opinion that Klaus Kinski and other German-speaking actors in the film gave a better performance in the German-language scenes.

Also, and I think this is the funnier fact:
[Reveal] Spoiler: low-importance to plot
The scene in the Herzog version with the "plague rats" was filmed using white rats. Herzog had ordered grey rats for the scene, but was accidentally sent white rats. Instead of sending the rats back for grey ones, some-one in the crew decided it would be more budget-conscious to dye the rats grey. The reason Herzog was very insistent on grey rats was because "white rats don't look menacing enough". Of course, the animal behaviourist that Herzog hired to help with the animals on the film quit due to inhumane treatment of the rats, so if you like rats (or generally support animal rights and / or welfare causes), you might not want to support the Herzog film.

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