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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby Nephele » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:40 am

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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby orlok » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:56 am

Night Mare WroteColonMy resolution is to phase out the clothing, music, and other things that I don't really like and truly discover who I am. Then to BE that person regardless of what other people think.



Power to you, and good luck! I'm on a similar quest.

Happy New Year to all!
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby Nightwatch » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:04 am

Happy new year all. 8) Let it be filled with gothic joy or regular randomness if you will :lol:
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby Midieval Fantasy » Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:19 am

I hope everyone had a great New Years. I ended up going to a house party of a dear, dear friend of mine whom I had actually never met in person until last night. It was beyond words amazing.
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby FairyInBoots » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:18 pm

Night Mare WroteColonI meant next "New Year". If you follow the hype around the Mayan calendar it is the end of 2012 that is the end of the world, not the start of it.

Technically, the Mesoamerican long-count calendar ends on 21 December of 2012 -- so not even until "next New Year", by the Gregorian calendar (the modern, international political calendar).

The Mesoamerican long-count calendar, sometimes referred to as Mayan, is theorised by leading archaeologists specialising in those cultures to be a perpetual calendar, meaning that 21 December 2012 will simply end that calendar age, similar to an astrological calendar "age", which can last hundreds or even thousands of years.

There are other New Age "theories" about geomagnetic reversal, or planetary collision, but these are either dismissed by leaders in their fields, or explained as grossly misunderstood (like geomagnetic reversal --which I believe some geologists think we're in the middle of, but it can take up to 7,000 years to complete, and is something that has happened several times before in the course of Earth's existence). And while there's some evidence that the Earth and its star, Helios, the sun, will be aligned with the black hole at the centre of our galaxy, the Milky Way, in December of 2012, creating a slight increase in gravity until the alignment passes, on the cosmic scale, this slight increase in gravity won't even be noticeable outside of sub-atomic proportions. The real danger is for 13 April 2036, when there will be a 1 in 250,000 chance that the asteroid Apophis will slam into Earth -- but the 13th of April is due for a Sunday that year, so I'd say the odds are in Earth's favour. ;-)
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby Demons x » Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:36 pm

I believe that the reason the Mayans didn't finish there calender was because of the spanish that enslaved them came before there was a chance of adding more so it is unsure that we will end. Maybe it is best that people believe it will end so that way nobody would be afraid to live there lives to the fullest. Nobody truly lives until the chips are down and they feel they hit the bottom. Lets try to make this a good new year :D

-- Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:36 pm --

I believe that the reason the Mayans didn't finish there calender was because of the spanish that enslaved them came before there was a chance of adding more so it is unsure that we will end. Maybe it is best that people believe it will end so that way nobody would be afraid to live there lives to the fullest. Nobody truly lives until the chips are down and they feel they hit the bottom. Lets try to make this a good new year :D
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby FairyInBoots » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:12 pm

Demons x WroteColonI believe that the reason the Mayans didn't finish there calender was because of the spanish that enslaved them came before there was a chance of adding more so it is unsure that we will end.


Even though its existence, carbon-dating, contemporary accounts and all, can be easily verified to be well pre-Columbus, and can be verified to have fallen out of use by the time of Columbus? It's also the longform calendar that most people reference as "ending" on 21 December 2012, and there were other, shorter perpetual calendars that had 52-year cycles, which were still in use by the time of Columbus. And not to mention the rarely-used higher-order counts of even further longcount dating, as determined by Mayan specialists....

I'm not a Mayan or Mesoamerican specialist in any sense, but I've gathered enough to realise that the Mesoamerican long-count calendar is a *very* misunderstood system, and even the notion that it "mysteriously ends at" or "only goes as far as 2012 on the Gregorian calendar" is one of the most basic, yet persistent misunderstandings.

I figure the reason this misunderstanding is so wilful after all these years is because it's so "close to us", in time, and for some reason I don't think I'll ever understand, a lot of people have really wanted the world to end for centuries --nothing against individual Christians, who can use their religion for their betterment, but I honestly believe that this apocalypse-lust is born of post-Nicean Christianity, when pre-Nicean Christianity and Gnostics hardly ever took note of apocalypse prophecies, and pre-Christian religions, especially traditional polytheist systems from the Greco-Roman to Shinto, tend to practise a belief in the cycles of Earth and time, and while this age, too, shall end, another one will replace it right after, and preoccupation with the end of an age was generally shunned.

There definitely seem, though, to be something about Christianity that apparently encourages this perverse apoco-lust, and even people who can be argued that their only exposure to Christianity growing up was from the Christian-dominated society outside the home, which may have been fairly liberal or extremely conservative, will still occasionally become obsessed not with the end of an age in human development, but the outright end of the world, which just doesn't seem at all healthy, to me.

I also don't see why there needs to be some eminent apocalypse to give people an excuse to live life to its fullest, since they should be doing that, anyway. It reminds me of an old Bill Cosby bit:

"I've never seen such a turn-around in my life. ... My children think my mother is the most wonderful person on the face of this earth, and I try to tell them: This is not the same woman I grew up with, this is an old person who is trying to get into heaven now."

Sure, it's comedy so it's exaggerated and not to be taken as factual, but the sentiment is clear that when looked at a certain way, this sort of reaction to feeling one is at the end of their mortal coil can seem hollow and insincere.
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby Night Mare » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:17 pm

FairyInBoots WroteColonTechnically, the Mesoamerican long-count calendar ends on 21 December of 2012 -- so not even until "next New Year", by the Gregorian calendar (the modern, international political calendar).


What he said ;)
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby nachtvlinder » Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:39 am

Have a good 2012, everyone! Chase your goals, live your dreams!

And, what FairyInBoots said about the world ending. There will be a December 22, 23 etc. So if someone was worried about the end of the earth, that's a couple of extra days for you to reach your dreams in 2012!
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby Gabriel Van Helsing » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:14 am

If I had a dime for every time the world was supposed to end, I'd be a multimillionaire.

Remember back in 2000, when Nostradamus said was the world was gonna end at the beginning of 2001? And how many people said the Y2K virus would ennact that prophecy? Yet, we are still here.

In fact, I remember an "end of the world" that happened during 2011...and the world kept going.

So yeah, I think it's all a bunch of baloney.
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Re: Happy New Year!

Postby The Divine Ms. M » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:56 am

Happy new year all! May it be happy, healthy, prosperous, & better than the last one! :)
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