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Techno or Industrial? - Define the difference.

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Forever_Lost Minauros Joined: November 2004 Posts: 28 Location: Lehigh Acres Florida Gender:	I like both, but industrial is better. _________________ -Magdalene-
Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:22 am

Sadiztix Minauros Joined: February 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Vivisector wrote: RiffRaff wrote: A more difficult question: What's the difference between EBM and IDM, and between industrial and powernoise, and between hardcore industry, techno and industrial... if you venture a little into the avantgarde ravescene, you will soon discover that the music they play there is very similar to industrial and EBM, however they discard the visual style of the genre... I think I might actually compile a website of definitions of the subgenres involved in the industrial scene... finish our website first viv _________________ "Society Is Obsolete"
Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:56 am

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2740 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	I`d say techno and industrial are as different as light and day..... I always thought of techno as being non-vocal, drum machine based dance club music, while industrial is more based on the harsh electronic experimentation, etc. Anyways, I have diverse tastes and will just as easily thrown on a Future Sound of London cd after a Skinny Puppy one. _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:01 pm

meesterfox Dis Joined: December 2004 Posts: 12 Location: PA Gender:	Industrial has more life to it, more... feeling. Techno is rather hollow. Industrial is maybe more rock based, where techno has nothing at all like that. I like some techno, but I mostly go with EBM and industrial. _________________ My site: http://boink.qdork.com . One must put up with caterpillers if one wishes to meet butterflies.
Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:55 pm

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2740 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	Actually I enjoy ambient trance/techno/trip hop/whatever the fuck it`s called..... as long as there`s somewhat of an ambient atmospheric influence, I can like it. Just a mere happy dance beat, some samples and blips is trash.... _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:30 am

Corpus_Chain Minauros Joined: December 2004 Posts: 35 Location: Southend-on-Sea & Hull, UK Gender:	Techno is a form of dance music, played by DJs such as Carl Cox, and is characterised by a thumping kick drum and ambient samples. Tempo is around 120bpm. Not to be confused with trance, which is around 140bpm, has much more percussion and is much more aggressive. Industrial can range from the avant-garde beats and noise of Annexia, to the harsh, raucous sound of industrial metal, such as Rammstein and Nine Inch Nails. It is generally characterised by the use of filtered drums and synth sounds, to give a cold, robotic feel. Tempo can range from 1bpm to 300bpm. If you want to see what industrial music looks like, watch the video 'Linchpin' by Fear Factory. I would class Fear Factory as Cyber-metal, but this video is so industrial it's untrue. Fear Factory videos ------ BPM = beats per minute, which in trance music, is the number of bass kicks per minute. Hip hop = 90bpm Smells like Teen Spirit = 110 bpm, roughly House = 120bpm Blue Monday = 120bpm Trance = 140bpm Garage = 140bpm Drum n Bass = 170bpm Hardcore = 180bpm Black metal blastbeats = 290bpm? _________________ I want to be on a mountain top / with a radio and good batteries / and play a joyous tune / and free the human race from suffering. ~Björk What came first? the chicken or the egg? It was actually the egg, as reptiles could lay eggs long before birds first evolved.
Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:23 pm

SanguineTrust Phlegethos Joined: January 2005 Posts: 89 Location: Baltimore, MD Gender:	I have always thought Industrial to be a little heavier as well. I dont' know-I don't listen to alot of techno, because I haven't really found alot of it to be to my liking. If anyone knows any good techno bands, please do share. I am always up for a new experiment! _________________ "Grinding through memories; confounding abilities; I'm so ill at ease (I always talk to myself)"
Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:46 pm

vialick Cania Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1282 Location: Australia Gender:	/div wrote: I have always thought Industrial to be a little heavier as well. I dont' know-I don't listen to alot of techno, because I haven't really found alot of it to be to my liking. If anyone knows any good techno bands, please do share. I am always up for a new experiment! it depends on how you class techno...but there's some really good Drum and Bass around which is probably a good step into techno from Powernoise and EBM. try some of these Hectate, Emotional Joystic, The Magus, Roni size or even Moby, endorphin, orbital, wagon christ, deep child, regurgitator, chemical brothers, Kraftwerk A lot of Haujobb's is techno by most of the definitions here, as are a few of Bill Leeb/Rhys Fulber's sideprojects Otherwise go to almost any CD shop, look in the sale section and there should be a double CD of trance music going cheap...a lot of it will be crap, but quite often you'll find some real gems of music _________________ In a crust-ification ecstasy, sandwich press on product wheat Foccacia need continuously extra Tomato, cheese and wait for me Foccacia are you sore inside, foccacia in their bag with lines Look to your moistened orrifice in holy rememberence, in hungered bliss Foccacia Martyr
Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:18 pm

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2740 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	You forgot the mighty Future Sound of London..... _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:07 pm

vialick Cania Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1282 Location: Australia Gender:	Oh, some people may be interrested in what appears to be an underground scene called Dark house a gRAVER friend of mine wrote summed it up like this (quoting to make it easier) /div wrote: heard a strange new sound on NYE i thinks its called Dark House it had vocals like darkwave (think laibach and I.O.C) but the rythmic feel of House and the pulse of acid it made me shake my Gay-Lo for hours That seems to be a good example of how "techno" and "industrial" (both used in their broader sense) can be fused, and may be good for people that want some diverse music _________________ In a crust-ification ecstasy, sandwich press on product wheat Foccacia need continuously extra Tomato, cheese and wait for me Foccacia are you sore inside, foccacia in their bag with lines Look to your moistened orrifice in holy rememberence, in hungered bliss Foccacia Martyr
Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:55 pm

Vivisector Cania Joined: March 2002 Posts: 1563 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	vialick wrote: /div wrote: I have always thought Industrial to be a little heavier as well. I dont' know-I don't listen to alot of techno, because I haven't really found alot of it to be to my liking. If anyone knows any good techno bands, please do share. I am always up for a new experiment! it depends on how you class techno...but there's some really good Drum and Bass around which is probably a good step into techno from Powernoise and EBM. try some of these Hectate, Emotional Joystic, The Magus, Roni size or even Moby, endorphin, orbital, wagon christ, deep child, regurgitator, chemical brothers, Kraftwerk A lot of Haujobb's is techno by most of the definitions here, as are a few of Bill Leeb/Rhys Fulber's sideprojects Otherwise go to almost any CD shop, look in the sale section and there should be a double CD of trance music going cheap...a lot of it will be crap, but quite often you'll find some real gems of music I've been listening to so much Hecate lately it's probably unhealthy _________________ My Music 1.) You lock the target. 2.) You bait the line. 3.) You slowly spread the net. 4.) You catch the man. 5.) ?????? 6.) PROFIT!
Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:41 pm

vialick Cania Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1282 Location: Australia Gender:	yeah, hecate is good...I must actually purchase some stuff...though I am getting a nice cheap venitian snares CD plus more... _________________ In a crust-ification ecstasy, sandwich press on product wheat Foccacia need continuously extra Tomato, cheese and wait for me Foccacia are you sore inside, foccacia in their bag with lines Look to your moistened orrifice in holy rememberence, in hungered bliss Foccacia Martyr
Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:23 pm

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2740 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	Hecate did a split with Lustmord, didn`t they??? Well, being a lover of Lustmord`s dark ambient sound, I`ve always been meaning to check out Hecate.... Dark house??? Usually when bands go into the 4/4 beats and mix it up with darkwave vocal styles it`s thrown into the EBM/electro genre, with Haujobb, Massiv in Mensch, etc. leaning slightly towards trance.... I`ll have to check it out. _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:21 am

RiffRaff Cania Joined: June 2003 Posts: 1106 Gender:	centurion wrote: Hecate did a split with Lustmord, didn`t they??? Well, being a lover of Lustmord`s dark ambient sound, I`ve always been meaning to check out Hecate.... Dark house??? Usually when bands go into the 4/4 beats and mix it up with darkwave vocal styles it`s thrown into the EBM/electro genre, with Haujobb, Massiv in Mensch, etc. leaning slightly towards trance.... I`ll have to check it out. Who hasn't done a split with Lustmord? :p _________________ We are hostile aliens immune from dying
Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:14 am

Vivisector Cania Joined: March 2002 Posts: 1563 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	RiffRaff wrote: centurion wrote: Hecate did a split with Lustmord, didn`t they??? Well, being a lover of Lustmord`s dark ambient sound, I`ve always been meaning to check out Hecate.... Dark house??? Usually when bands go into the 4/4 beats and mix it up with darkwave vocal styles it`s thrown into the EBM/electro genre, with Haujobb, Massiv in Mensch, etc. leaning slightly towards trance.... I`ll have to check it out. Who hasn't done a split with Lustmord? :p Very very true _________________ My Music 1.) You lock the target. 2.) You bait the line. 3.) You slowly spread the net. 4.) You catch the man. 5.) ?????? 6.) PROFIT!
Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:22 pm

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