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Techno or Industrial? - Define the difference.

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a_patient_sorrow Phlegethos Joined: December 2004 Posts: 56 Location: West Paterson NJ Gender:	this how it goes for me. industrial: what i listen to techno: what everyone else listens to that i know
Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:25 pm

gothica Dis Joined: January 2005 Posts: 11 Location: usa Gender:	what are the most famous industrial bands? since i have always listened to rock music which ended up to gothic metal, im not very familiar with industrial. i have to c what bands play industrial then i can c the difference better. thanx
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:17 pm

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2766 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	Well, there are so many kinds of industrial, and what people may call industrial...... from the early pure experimentation and noise manipulation of Throbbing Gristle or Psychic TV to the modern vocal dance/rhythm based "EBM", to the electronic metal that is coldwave. I`d say Skinny Puppy would define everything industrial music is and remain one of my favorite bands of all time. Also check out Einsturzende Neubauten, old Ministry, Alien Sex Fiend, Pig, yelworC, Frontline Assembly, and Laibach. _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:32 am

a_patient_sorrow Phlegethos Joined: December 2004 Posts: 56 Location: West Paterson NJ Gender:	centurion wrote: I`d say Skinny Puppy would define everything industrial music is and remain one of my favorite bands of all time. Also check out Einsturzende Neubauten, old Ministry, Alien Sex Fiend, Pig, yelworC, Frontline Assembly, and Laibach. dont forget KMFDM or Velvet Acid Christ. those are some of the most brilliant parts of industrial today.
Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:30 am

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2766 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	hmmmm..... I liked Wumpscut better than VAC for that style. Well, I guess we could throw Android Lust and Das Ich in there too..... _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:25 pm

Vivisector Cania Joined: March 2002 Posts: 1563 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	a_patient_sorrow wrote: dont forget...Velvet Acid Christ. If by "brilliant" you mean "idiotic and unimaginative" (with regards to VAC). _________________ My Music 1.) You lock the target. 2.) You bait the line. 3.) You slowly spread the net. 4.) You catch the man. 5.) ?????? 6.) PROFIT!
Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:34 pm

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2766 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	My main problem with most VAC material is that it`s pretty formulaic..... start with an EBM beat, throw in some movie samples and whispered vocals, and there you go..... I hear their new stuff is better though. Haven`t listened to it yet myself. _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:36 pm

nonfatsuperjesus Dis Joined: February 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Sturgis, SD Gender:	This is easy. Industrial incorperates real life sounds, such as screams, metal on matal sounds, clips, et cetra. While techno is pure synth noise. I play keyboards and I love VNV Nation (favorite musik ever) but I still enjoy NIN (best industrial ever.. maybe KMFDM, but I like NIN better). Hope this clears things up for you. There is nothing better, in my opinion, than a little futurepop. Check it out: http://vnvnation.com I promise you'll love it _________________ So let me get this straight. You want to fly on a magic carpet to see the King of the potato people and plead with him for your freedom? And you´re telling me you´re completely sane?
Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:20 am

Vivisector Cania Joined: March 2002 Posts: 1563 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	nonfatsuperjesus wrote: This is easy. Industrial incorperates real life sounds, such as screams, metal on matal sounds, clips, et cetra. While techno is pure synth noise. I play keyboards and I love VNV Nation (favorite musik ever) but I still enjoy NIN (best industrial ever.. maybe KMFDM, but I like NIN better). Hope this clears things up for you. There is nothing better, in my opinion, than a little futurepop. Check it out: http://vnvnation.com I promise you'll love it No, we won't. Because this is a thread about industrial music, not shitty futurepop acts with an entire backcatalogue that sounds like the same song. If we wanted to talk about futurepop, we'd get fucked up on E, put yarn in out fucking hair and bounce around like retards at a club while somehow convincing ourselves that what we are listening to is "new" and "original". _________________ My Music 1.) You lock the target. 2.) You bait the line. 3.) You slowly spread the net. 4.) You catch the man. 5.) ?????? 6.) PROFIT!
Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:39 am

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2766 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	Whoah, don`t be so harsh on the lad :I Rather than bash others` music tastes, lets point them in the right direction, shall we??? Anyways, I kinda have a top ten industrial album "list", only according to personal tastes though, as what is "essential for every industrial fan" seems to be pretty debatable. Skinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold and Manipulate Laibach - Opus Dei Einsturzende Neubauten - Silence is Sexy Yelworc - Trinity Ministry - Twitch Frontline Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant Das Ich - Antichrist Die Krupps - the Final Option Psychonaut 75 - Stealing the Fire From Heaven I know I`m missing a whole bunch, but it`s a starting point..... _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:05 pm

Luciferian Phlegethos Joined: June 2004 Posts: 99 Location: A cardboard box. Gender:	I don't think it would be possible to make a top 10 industrial album list...of the list you said, you missed many essential artists (and I know that I will have missed many more): Throbbing gristle, coil, Merzbow, snog, Caberet Volitare, imminant starvation, iszoloscope it would be impossible to narrow it down to 10...I mean Merzbox (Fingers crossed I'll buy one soonish) contains 50 CDs, and they could all be seen as important -EDIT-- Forgot to mention that this is Vialick _________________ "If I was so inclined, I could have killed you three times." "Well, if I was so inclined, during this conversation... I could have groped you five times!"
Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:18 pm

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2766 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	Yeah, I suppose that was just my list of music that really made an impression and influenced me personally, not an "essentials" list..... Probably many of those I mentioned were in the "modern industrial" category as well. No, the essential roots artists and albums are well into the hundreds. There`s so much out there to be explored, and so many different "sub-styles" of industrial as well. _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:57 am

Vivisector Cania Joined: March 2002 Posts: 1563 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Luciferian wrote: I don't think it would be possible to make a top 10 industrial album list...of the list you said, you missed many essential artists (and I know that I will have missed many more): Throbbing gristle, coil, Merzbow, snog, Caberet Volitare, imminant starvation, iszoloscope it would be impossible to narrow it down to 10...I mean Merzbox (Fingers crossed I'll buy one soonish) contains 50 CDs, and they could all be seen as important -EDIT-- Forgot to mention that this is Vialick Unfortunately your chances of finding a Merzbox now is slim to none. _________________ My Music 1.) You lock the target. 2.) You bait the line. 3.) You slowly spread the net. 4.) You catch the man. 5.) ?????? 6.) PROFIT!
Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:45 am

Vivisector Cania Joined: March 2002 Posts: 1563 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	centurion wrote: Whoah, don`t be so harsh on the lad :I Rather than bash others` music tastes, lets point them in the right direction, shall we??? Anyways, I kinda have a top ten industrial album "list", only according to personal tastes though, as what is "essential for every industrial fan" seems to be pretty debatable. Skinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold and Manipulate Laibach - Opus Dei Einsturzende Neubauten - Silence is Sexy Yelworc - Trinity Ministry - Twitch Frontline Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant Das Ich - Antichrist Die Krupps - the Final Option Psychonaut 75 - Stealing the Fire From Heaven I know I`m missing a whole bunch, but it`s a starting point..... We've had an entire thread pointing them in the right direction. It's getting old fast. MY personal list of essential albums: Skinny Puppy - Bites Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park Throbbing Gristle - 2nd Annual Report Current 93 - Dogs Blood Rising Ministry - A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste Einstuerzende Neubauten - Kollaps NON - God and Beast SPK - Information Overload Unit Frontline Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant Clock DVA - Buried Dreams _________________ My Music 1.) You lock the target. 2.) You bait the line. 3.) You slowly spread the net. 4.) You catch the man. 5.) ?????? 6.) PROFIT!
Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:03 am

centurion Nessus Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2766 Location: Osaka, Japan Gender:	hmmmm.... I think I saw that Clock DVA release at Time Bomb records the other day. About time to pick it up I guess.... Unfortunately, Current 93`s Dogs Blood Rising is the one C93 album I have trouble finding. Guess I`ll be ordering this one.... _________________ Righteousness is the root of all evil.
Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:47 pm

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