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 Things you did when you were a more naive 'Goth' 
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(Samhain Disciple wrote:
I made the great mistake of dying my waist-length, super thick, blonde hair to jet black in an attempt to look more "goth." I had it in my head that I just couldn't be goth with blonde hair.

It looked HORRIBLE on me (did not go with my skin tone at ALL.) I spent hundreds of dollars trying to get it back to blonde and severely damaged my hair in the process. It took 3 years to grow back out into nice, strong healthy hair. BIG mistake.

I did the black hair dye too. My hair was naturally light blonde, but darkened with age. So back in grade 5 or 6, I dyed ot a lighter blonde. Then I decided I'd do it black, not for the goth look so much, as to try to get it closer to its natural colour (bleach blonde can only be dyed over with black or red). But, my roots are a dark blonde/light brown (hard to explain), so the black wasn't close. Lucky, my mom's friend is a hair dresser, so I got half of my hair *close* to my natural colour, while the other half has grown out to my actual natural colour. My fiance wants me to dye my hair black again, but I think black and my natural colour both suit me fine. :)

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Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:45 am
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i am a naive goth right now... lol. i wear a lot of black and i'm putting down emo as poser goth >.< i know it's not a good thing

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Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:03 pm
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Luckily you have this thread to read and learn from! Avoid the mistakes of the past and prevent the further villification of the subculture by the young and naive.

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Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:09 pm
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scarlettdraelynkhar wrote:
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I shopped at...hot topic *cries*
...does anyone else feel like they're in some kind of addicts anon.?

I shop at Hot Topic all the time, hell I even tried to get a job there. The clothes are awesome and the music is sick. Whats not to like about Hot Topic?

Read around. You'll find that many people regard Hot Topic to be one of the more ubiquitous sources of the bastardization of the goth image, find their clothes to be overpriced and of shoddy quality, and have simply grown tired of the mallrat-goth-in-a-box stereotype that seems to constantly be linked with the chain.

No, there isn't anything wrong with shopping at Hot Topic if you truly like the items you're purchasing there and truly feel you're getting the quality you're paying for, but there is a problem if you're shopping there simply because you're trying to hard to be "alternative" or "goth." Many people have simply found that, if they branch out, they can find better, less expensive clothing that allows them to more freely express their individual styles.

You know you guys are right about the crappy quality there. I just got a pair of pants there for the rather steep price of 55 bucks and theres already a decent rip in them after wearing them only ONCE! Even worse its right next to the zipper, great place to rip eh? Safety pin to the rescue!

Well I DO like the style of the clothing there, and some of the T-Shirts are downright hilarious. I shopped there because I thought I looked great in the clothes, not because I wanted to be goth. I am what I am, and as far as I can tell I'm just a dark gamer. I am curious tho if I can relate to you goths, wich is why I am here :]. I really dont want to throw down another $50+ for some pants and have them rip again, so can anyone name a few stores for me where I may find some decent quality/priced dark clothing?

I love my clothes to be covered in chains. I always think of them as the chains of society forever keeping me from being free. (Ive had a lot of unwanted trouble with the law)

Plus they scare old ladies at wal-mart :P

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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:38 am
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I think i was too worried about my friends and family being naive about my new image. I never thought about it for myself. I am much more open now though, i don't disagree with everything.

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(Drakarad wrote:
Plus they scare old ladies at wal-mart :P

Personally I prefer to have old ladies compliment me, and say they wish they had the guts to dress that way when they were young. They talk about how all the other girls look the same everywhere they go, and it's so refreshing to have someone interesting to look at.

I like that better than scaring them, personally.

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Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:11 am
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LOL Jenny, I don't think I've ever had an ole lady COMPLIMENT my clothes. They usually snicker and grumble under their breath!

I did have an ole man compliment me and my friends once, which was cool!

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Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:14 am
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Drakarad, you know generally when you have trouble with the law, it's because you're BREAKING laws. I work in law enforcement, and I hear young people all the time with similiar attitudes as yours. If you don't want trouble with the law, just be a good law-abiding citizen and it won't be a problem!

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(Samhain Disciple wrote:
LOL Jenny, I don't think I've ever had an ole lady COMPLIMENT my clothes. They usually snicker and grumble under their breath!

I did have an ole man compliment me and my friends once, which was cool!

I once had an old woman asking me where I bought my New Rocks from becuse she liked them so much. :D

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(blckencht wrote:
Samhain Disciple wrote:
LOL Jenny, I don't think I've ever had an ole lady COMPLIMENT my clothes. They usually snicker and grumble under their breath!

I did have an ole man compliment me and my friends once, which was cool!

I once had an old woman asking me where I bought my New Rocks from becuse she liked them so much. :D

I had an old woman tell me she was intrigued my drainpipe Tripp NYC pants and how she found the design of zips going down the legs very interesting. When I explained it was simply to look nice, she was very aprroving indeed!

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I went to a high school in a tiny, isolated rural town in Iowa. There were no goths. We had a small group of freaks, who were either gay or Wiccan or what-have-you, but none of them showed any signs of interest in goth music or style.

So, with no real guidance on the matter, I had determined in my mind that "goth" was equivalent to "pagan, Satanic, occultic, etc." I even started using the terms interchangeably in my every day conversation. One day I was surfing KaZaA for some good music and I came across "Evanescence" (!). I thought for sure that they were goth, but their lyrics seemed to evidence that the band-members were Christian. So it was at that point I came to the conclusion that one didn't have to be pagan or occultic to be goth. I dove headlong into the poser goth scene and idolized that stupid band for a year. That was only a little over 5 years ago, maybe. I will never live down that stage in my life.

I didn't have any goth clothes at the time, so I wore regular black jeans, a black t-shirt, and some homemade apparel (necklaces, crucifixes, etc.). When I discovered Hot Topic I bought as much of their crap as I could. Funny enough, my clothing was probably closer to traditional goth styles back when I first tried to get into the scene.

Most likely the funniest thing I ever did as a spookykid in high school was going through our library's computer section and setting all the computers' homepages to this goth website (I got called into the office for that one). :D I still laugh about that to this day. Fucking awesome.

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(Nachtzehrer wrote:
Let me paint you a picture of 14 year old Nachty:

- Black tennis shoes? Check
- Black jeans? Check
- White socks?( ! ) Check
- Battered, cheap-ass black trenchcoat? Check
- Lapel button reading: "Dracula Sucks"? Check
- Bram Stoker's Dracula t-shirt? Check
- Bram Stoker's Dracula baseball cap? Check
- Silver skull ring with moveable jaw bought on a Mexican beach from an itinerant jewelry barker? Check
- Black sunglasses that look just like the ones from T2? Check
- Cheap pewter pentacle necklace from Spencer Gifts? Check
- Batman wrist watch? Check
- Black leather gloves? Check
- Vampire book tucked into back pocket? Check
- Sketch pad full of drawings of zombies? Check
- Discman pumping out Bram Stoker's Dracula soundtrack? Check
- Mercyful Fate CD bought only because the cover had a vampire on it? Check
- Circle of hormonal male friends who incessantly discuss the Vampire Chronicles? Check



How I managed to get through freshman year and the football team without getting my ass kicked is totally beyond me. (:

~Nachtzehrer, who was at least aware how silly he was~

Woah, someone was a vampire obsessive!!

Even little ol' vampire-lover me doesn't go that insanely far!!

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(Siouxsie's Banshee wrote:
One day I was surfing KaZaA for some good music and I came across "Evanescence" (!). I thought for sure that they were goth, but their lyrics seemed to evidence that the band-members were Christian. So it was at that point I came to the conclusion that one didn't have to be pagan or occultic to be goth. I dove headlong into the poser goth scene and idolized that stupid band for a year. That was only a little over 5 years ago, maybe. I will never live down that stage in my life.

Hey, Evanescence may not be Goth but they're a brilliant band and I certainly worship them and would do anything for them. So I'm an Evanescence whore? It makes me happy.

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(BlackLaceKiss wrote:
Siouxsie's Banshee wrote:
One day I was surfing KaZaA for some good music and I came across "Evanescence" (!). I thought for sure that they were goth, but their lyrics seemed to evidence that the band-members were Christian. So it was at that point I came to the conclusion that one didn't have to be pagan or occultic to be goth. I dove headlong into the poser goth scene and idolized that stupid band for a year. That was only a little over 5 years ago, maybe. I will never live down that stage in my life.

Hey, Evanescence may not be Goth but they're a brilliant band and I certainly worship them and would do anything for them. So I'm an Evanescence whore? It makes me happy.

I agree! I still think Evanescence are a great band, Gothic or not, If anything I think it's worse not liking bands because they are not "goth" than thinking they are and "worshipping" them for it.

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Frankly, I'm rather tired of the posts in this thread that consist of nothing but arguing over whether liking a particular band makes you "naive" or not.

I think the topic has been utterly played out, honestly. Closed.

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