The forums have now been linked to the main GOTH.NET website. ALL members must log into the main website at least once before they can log into the forums (if you have a forums account, you automatically have an account on the main website).

If you are not a member on the forums yet, and wish to sign up, you will also have to create an account on the main website, which will automatically register you for the forums.


Note: If you have previously tried the above, and have been having problems logging into the forums, this has been fixed however you must change your password (on the main website) to resolve it permanently. Click here for instructions on how.

Most egotistical artists

A discussion of all things musical, that does not really fit in the other music categories.
User avatar

Topic author
Carpathian Dark Princess
Cania
Posts: 2451
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:42 am
Location: Metro Detroit
Gender: Female
Age: 26

Most egotistical artists

Postby Carpathian Dark Princess » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:43 am

I know this will be frowned upon, since an artist's personality shouldn't affect they way you listen to their music.... but it still manages to bug the shit out me.

Are there any artists (or even bands) that just strick you as being egocentric, arrogant, vain, narcissitic, conceited, superficial - you get the picture?

To start this out, I will say, Emilie Autumn. I enjoy listening to her music and snippets of her wardrobe, but I just can't get the whole Attrition incident from a few years back past me. To make a long story that may have some misconceptions short, Attrition and Projekt records are in it (making dark music) for the music; Emilie Autumn is in it for the money.

And I despite the fact that I listen to her music, her image is everything that I find wrong with goth (and I'm kinda disappointed that I rarely find anyone who feels this way). People always make threads about Emilie Autumn vs. Lady Gaga, but the way I see, Emilie Autumn is the Lady Gaga of goth - and I don't mean that in a good way at all.
0 x
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." - Leo Tolstoy

"The first rule of Goth Club is : You do not talk about Goth Club." - Milky

Remember, Arthur and Lancelot: bros before hoes!

Batty
Maladomini
Posts: 601
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:56 am
Gender: Female

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Batty » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:08 am

I know what you mean.

Just to be fair she's been criticised for songs like "Thank God I'm Pretty" when the message is a bitter and sarcastic commentary on sexism/sexual harassment, rather than being self flattering. She's pointing out that her being labeled as "pretty" isn't a compliment or a privilege - it's actually objectifying her and taking away her right to physical safety by singling her out as 'rapeable'.


I will definitely agree with you about the whole image/stage presence though. I watched one performance on Youtube in which they played the 'Rat Game', and if it's often like that her shows could be more about a performance than the music.

I haven't seen enough of her stuff to fully judge, but I have heard a few criticisms along the lines of style over substance.
0 x
Courtesy of Nephele - Charizma Bullet Strangeway, Luzbel Chainsaw Graymatter at full moon ;)

Wing Commander Batty of the Gothsylvanian Air Force

I need a check up from the neck up, I'm Batty!
User avatar

Wolfmammy
GAF
Posts: 9288
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Alvin, TX
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Wolfmammy » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:58 am

I absolutely think that an artist's personality should be taken into account when listening to their music.

I'm going to say Jerry Only and Al Jourgensen. I can't stand them. I've never liked Emilie Autumn. And I can't stand Tori Amos. No, I don't think she's a 'beautiful, tortured soul' because she makes songs about rape. She should have used music to get past that tragedy in her life instead of using it for record sales.
0 x
Merciful Shadows

I'm on the quest for immortality here people! Down with death!! ~ Carpi

In America, law violates you! ~ Arq
User avatar

Black Milk
Administrator
Posts: 4302
Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:40 am
Location: Ireland
Gender: Male
x 3
USER_FLAG: Ireland
Age: 34
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Black Milk » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:26 pm

Billy Corgan, an example of his ego in action :
Billy Corgan WroteColonDo I belong in the conversation about the best artists in the world? My answer is yes, I do,” he says. “I’ve been too productive for too long, and despite what anybody wants to strip away from me, I am influential. I am. You can hear echoes of my music right now. So all the Pitchforks in the world can try to strip me of every ounce of dignity, but I belong.


There are countless examples of his gigantic ego out there though, other excellent personality traits he possesses include being a total hypocrite (he joined a Christian Hippy cult all about peace and love, all his modern songs are about that, all his online posts are about that, but every interview is a total hatefest were he bashes former bandmates, former friends and other bands, every concert there is almost certainly going to be a rant and he's probably going to verbally attack the fans).

I still love the music he used to make though.
0 x
Goth.nets resident Atlantean
(Thanks to Nephele)

David Bowie - All the Madmen
lastfm
User avatar

LegendGirl
Administrator
Posts: 2489
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:57 am
Location: NH, USA
Gender: Female
Dark Side Name: Stellana Neptunes
USER_FLAG: United States of America

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby LegendGirl » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:05 am

Andrew Eldritch is reputed to have quite an ego. Apparently, his abysmal drum playing didn't tone it down much.

I still love the Sisters, though. :mrgreen:
0 x
"The Dead Travel Fast." ~ Bram Stoker, Dracula's Guest
User avatar

Midieval Fantasy
Manisha
Posts: 8545
Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:26 pm
Location: Jacksonville Florida.
Gender: Female
x 4
USER_FLAG: United States of America
Age: 28
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Midieval Fantasy » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:22 pm

And, as i did in the 'artists you want to dislike but can't" I will, again, have to say Amy Lee. Every time i hear about her she strikes me as a stuck up snob who thinks she is better than everyone else.
0 x
"...To know means to be prepared to know.
Once you find out the truth, there's no going back.
You can't ever go back to being the way you were, blissful and unconcerned.''
-Nezumi; No. 6

Minnie d'Arc

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Minnie d'Arc » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:58 am

Me.

Me, me, me, me, me... ( :wink: :lol:)
0 x
User avatar

centurion
Nessus
Posts: 2944
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:43 pm
Location: British Columbia, Canada (now) Osaka, Japan (previously)
Age: 34
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby centurion » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:19 am

Glenn Danzig and how he got his clock cleaned backstage after a show should speak volumes.
I've NEVER heard good things about that guy. He gets a facelift, starts working out, and suddenly he thinks he's god's, or the devil's, gift to all women..... He's outright rude to most of his fans as well.

Andrew Eldrich, if his interviews in print and his website don't convince you, look for some of his Youtube interviews.

There's one where he won't let the guy get a word in edgewise because he's too busy talking about himself and how great he is, makes it sound like it's a "privilege" for any of his fans to see him live, and the fact that his speaking voice is the exact opposite of his singing voice(annoyingly high pitched and nasal) doesn't help any.
0 x
The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal.

- Aleister Crowley
User avatar

Wolfmammy
GAF
Posts: 9288
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Alvin, TX
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Wolfmammy » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:21 am

centurion WroteColonGlenn Danzig and how he got his clock cleaned backstage after a show should speak volumes.
I've NEVER heard good things about that guy. He gets a facelift, starts working out, and suddenly he thinks he's god's, or the devil's, gift to all women..... He's outright rude to most of his fans as well.

Andrew Eldrich, if his interviews in print and his website don't convince you, look for some of his Youtube interviews.

There's one where he won't let the guy get a word in edgewise because he's too busy talking about himself and how great he is, makes it sound like it's a "privilege" for any of his fans to see him live, and the fact that his speaking voice is the exact opposite of his singing voice(annoyingly high pitched and nasal) doesn't help any.


I can give Glenn a pass on the sucker-punch. Anyone can get sucker-punched, don't mean shit.
0 x
Merciful Shadows

I'm on the quest for immortality here people! Down with death!! ~ Carpi

In America, law violates you! ~ Arq
User avatar

sjldog
Maladomini
Posts: 595
Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:44 am
Location: City of Park Hills, Missouri
Gender: Male
Age: 27

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby sjldog » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:13 pm

Lead singer of green day man i hate guy
0 x
I'd rather be myself and be rejected by an entire nation than to happily be accepted by the masses as a copy of an imitation. Thorin...
User avatar

MistahCrow
Stygia
Posts: 239
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:44 am
Gender: Male
Age: 22

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby MistahCrow » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:43 pm

Wolfmammy WroteColonI absolutely think that an artist's personality should be taken into account when listening to their music.

I'm going to say Jerry Only and Al Jourgensen. I can't stand them. I've never liked Emilie Autumn. And I can't stand Tori Amos. No, I don't think she's a 'beautiful, tortured soul' because she makes songs about rape. She should have used music to get past that tragedy in her life instead of using it for record sales.

Al has a sense of humor that people mistake for him just being an asshole. He's actually a real chill dude, met him a few years ago, one of the funniest mofo's I have ever met in my life.
0 x
User avatar

CarpeNoctem
Cania
Posts: 1095
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:24 am
Location: Elyria, OH. aka..where the hell is that?
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby CarpeNoctem » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:38 pm

Dave Mustaine.
I LOVE him, and I LOVE Megadeth.
But seriously. Metallica kicked you out 20-something years ago. Grow up, dear. We're all tired of hearing about it. If your alcoholism is bad enough to get kicked out of "Alcoholica", then yes, it is on you.
And we don't care if you nailed Kirk's girlfriend either.
Drop it.
0 x
L'âme d'autrui est une forêt obscure où il faut marcher avec précaution--Claude Debussy

Cats don't have emotions--they're the animal equivalent of sociopaths.
User avatar

Wolfmammy
GAF
Posts: 9288
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Alvin, TX
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby Wolfmammy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:04 pm

^That is awesome! :lol: Fuckin' Mustaine
0 x
Merciful Shadows

I'm on the quest for immortality here people! Down with death!! ~ Carpi

In America, law violates you! ~ Arq
User avatar

CarpeNoctem
Cania
Posts: 1095
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:24 am
Location: Elyria, OH. aka..where the hell is that?
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby CarpeNoctem » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:10 pm

he just needs to stop crying like a bitch.
0 x
L'âme d'autrui est une forêt obscure où il faut marcher avec précaution--Claude Debussy

Cats don't have emotions--they're the animal equivalent of sociopaths.
User avatar

centurion
Nessus
Posts: 2944
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:43 pm
Location: British Columbia, Canada (now) Osaka, Japan (previously)
Age: 34
Contact:

Re: Most egotistical artists

Postby centurion » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:49 am

....and get his nose out of his vocal chords?? :lol:
0 x
The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal.

- Aleister Crowley

Social Media

       

Return to “General Music”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

Login