How Goths Answer Stupid Questions
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Andrias
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lostindreaming wrote: I have found that I live in a very weird area. Here in the Triangle of NC, even all the colleges, I have seen virtually no Goths on the street. I have gotten some lingering stares occasionally when I am out, but no one seems to recognize a Goth. In almost every other city I have visited, if I walk around with a Joy Division, Bauhaus, Sisters, Siouxsie, etc. t-shirt, someone will eventually say "Cool shirt!" or nod in acknowledgment. In over two years, I haven't a glimmer of recognition from anyone about a band t-shirt, or button, or clothing. If I were to walk down the street looking like the undertaker in the Scary Bitches song, people would just think I was going to a costume party. Even in downtown Chapel Hill, which is very counter-culture, I've seen no one who looks Gothic or who seems to recognize a Goth. One girl in a checkout line complimented me because my jewelry matched my clothes, which I thought was very observant. But she didn't seem to associate it with anything Gothic, even when I mentioned Gothic Alchemy, etc. Last month I was featured in a local newspaper because of a Steampunk craft, I held for teens, and the reporter quoted me when I said I am an "old goth". I thought this might have some sort of backlash. But not a single staff member in our very large library system, even the young librarians, commented. No patron ever commented, which is good in a way, I suppose. But odd. Every great once in a while a young teen will come into the library who looks somewhat goth, but they don't recognize jewelry; bands, or anything I mention in connection with the goth subculture. When I go further west in the Piedmont, I do get some stares with the derby or fedora, trench coat, boots, etc. But again, no glimmer of recognition, and it has been years since I've seen anyone who was obviously a Goth. Back about 2001 or 2002, I used to see quite a few at the malls when I came home on vacation, but not any more. It's downright bizarre. That's the result of activley dissociating ourselves from our subcultural label, it no longer exists in the eyes & minds of most other people, or if it does it's waaay off the mark. I only know 1 other goth, a girl who's a friend of mine in college, we have a class together, and she obviously dresses the part in giant platforms and lacey skirts and mourning veils everyday. For my part I'm wearing a more trad-goth/deathrock ensemble, however it often gets confused with 80's hair-metal and most people think that's what I'm activley pursuing, WAY off the mark, even more bizzarre, african americans look at me and think I'm trying to do an afro (wtf?) and a couple of people have started taking me for a michael jackson knock-off (this one i REALLY don't get) they like to blare a random song of his whenever I walk by. I live in FL by the way, the only other goths I've seen besides me and her are the big tripp wearing/trench coat mafia type metal heads. Most everyone (except a few old fogies I've met) are uterlly clueless as to what we're representing.
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Calliope Aisha Cassandra
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Ok, this is maybe ungoth, but this is the best topic where to put it
Me: "Sir, we received 3 orders from customer XXX, it's the usual 2 pallets"
my boss: "do you mean 2 pallets each?"
first immagined answer: "no, I mean 2 pallets in 3 orders, the first is for thursday the truck is coming but not loading because it's coming back to load it on saturday... of course it's 2 each!"
second immagined answer: "I'm not supposed to give you an answer, it's a logic quiz, let's see how you solve it"
real answer: "yes sir, it's 2 each"
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Minty
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Joined: April 2009 Posts: 1845 Location: Joie de l'Eau, Maice Isle, Gothsylvania, otherwise Blackheath, London, UK Gender:
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I loved Goth Granny, even though she looked a little fake-ish to me  As for the insults and stupid comments, I have honestly only heard my being Goth mentioned once, and it was when my Uncle asked my Mum if I was (I was busy in another room, but I heard him ask "with all the black clothes, is she a goth?" and my Mum answered "Yes". My Uncle said "Cool, only I have a friend who dresses all in black and she's a goth and I was just wondering". That is the extent of comments about my gothyness... I get abuse and nasty comments shouted at me in the street because of my size. Mostly I'm too stunned to reply, but on one occasion I did manage to shout back at the kids on bikes that whizzed down the street and shouted to me outside my own front door, "Oi fatso!" "Well done, so f***ing observant!" (I was in a bad mood that day or else I wouldn't have sworn). I just fail to see what business it is of anyone else's what you look like, and I wouldn't have the nerve to say whatever I maybe thinking out loud. People seriously need to get some manners before they leave their houses... and also they need to stop trying to impress their dumb friends by making nasty/inane comments to perfect strangers! One day they will yell at the wrong person and they could get really hurt by doing so... some people are not as anti-violence as me!
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| Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:17 am |
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Nephele
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Minty wrote: ... and also they need to stop trying to impress their dumb friends by making nasty/inane comments to perfect strangers! One day they will yell at the wrong person and they could get really hurt by doing so... some people are not as anti-violence as me! Keep that thought in mind. Every time some moose-brained imbecile bellows out at you or some stranger like that, they are happily lumbering one step closer towards Darwinian culling from the herd. I find that a very comforting thought. -- Nephele
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| Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:27 am |
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Calliope Aisha Cassandra
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Nephele wrote: Minty wrote: ... and also they need to stop trying to impress their dumb friends by making nasty/inane comments to perfect strangers! One day they will yell at the wrong person and they could get really hurt by doing so... some people are not as anti-violence as me! Keep that thought in mind. Every time some moose-brained imbecile bellows out at you or some stranger like that, they are happily lumbering one step closer towards Darwinian culling from the herd. I find that a very comforting thought. -- Nephele My mother always tells me when someone makes me angry or treats me badly to just immagine them naked... When I follow this piece of advice I usually burst with laughter... 
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| Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:35 am |
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nachtvlinder
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Nephele wrote: Minty wrote: ... and also they need to stop trying to impress their dumb friends by making nasty/inane comments to perfect strangers! One day they will yell at the wrong person and they could get really hurt by doing so... some people are not as anti-violence as me! Keep that thought in mind. Every time some moose-brained imbecile bellows out at you or some stranger like that, they are happily lumbering one step closer towards Darwinian culling from the herd. I find that a very comforting thought. -- Nephele Or I remember that the little "brave" teens (who somehow never shout nasty things when they haven't have bikes or another escape route on hand) are most likely the same ones who destroy benches in parks or rain shelter at the bus stop at night. True "heroes", who can only "fight" when they have an escape route or something cannot fight back... I laugh at them, and think about how next time they will crash into a lamp post while looking back at the people they just insulted, or some other scenario. I hardly ever answer them - they won't understand it as usually their brains cannot cope with trying to ride that bike straight and shouting something at the same time, anyway. Minty, don't listen to them! Just remember that you are a smart woman and that being smart is something they won't achieve. Ever.
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Midieval Fantasy
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Minty: They were jerks. I'm overweight so I know just how hurtful those kind of comments can be. Sorry you have to deal with that. If it helps, you're the better person and a great person to look up to, I'm sure. I'd say more, but I don't know you so well as I'd like to. I am so sorry that people would be that hurtful to you.
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| Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:57 am |
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Black Milk
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Given I don't really dress how I guess people expect a goth (but yes, I still think of myself as one) to dress anymore, I don't really get asked goth specific questions, I do, however get asked quite frequently : Q : "Aren't you a little overdressed?" My stock answer : "No, everyone else is seriously underdressed" (usually accompanied by a quick, but very obvious, glance at what the person is wearing and disdain...lots and lots of disdain) I was also asked something similar : Q : "Isn't that outfit a bit formal?" A : "My pyjamas are in the wash" (that might not make sense outside of Ireland though)
I'm probably too tired right now to come up with anything good for any of the other questions, but I'll give it a shot :
Q : Why do you dress like that? A : It helps prevent hypothermia, and nudity
Q : Aren't you hot? A : Thats very sweet of you to say so
Q: Are you a Vampire? A : Do I look like I'd sparkle in daylight?
Q : Are you a satanist? A : Well...I do love satin...
Q :Aren't you a little old for all of that Gothic stuff? A : Aren't you a little young to be questioning your elders?
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| Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:07 pm |
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Midieval Fantasy
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Black Milk wrote: Given I don't really dress how I guess people expect a goth (but yes, I still think of myself as one) to dress anymore, I don't really get asked goth specific questions, I do, however get asked quite frequently : Q : "Aren't you a little overdressed?" My stock answer : "No, everyone else is seriously underdressed" (usually accompanied by a quick, but very obvious, glance at what the person is wearing and disdain...lots and lots of disdain) I was also asked something similar : Q : "Isn't that outfit a bit formal?" A : "My pyjamas are in the wash" (that might not make sense outside of Ireland though)
I'm probably too tired right now to come up with anything good for any of the other questions, but I'll give it a shot :
Q : Why do you dress like that? A : It helps prevent hypothermia, and nudity
Q : Aren't you hot? A : Thats very sweet of you to say so
Q: Are you a Vampire? A : Do I look like I'd sparkle in daylight?
Q : Are you a satanist? A : Well...I do love satin...
Q :Aren't you a little old for all of that Gothic stuff? A : Aren't you a little young to be questioning your elders? I'm stealing some of those. (and sadly, the pajama answer made perfect sense.)
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sgath92
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Midieval Fantasy wrote: (and sadly, the pajama answer made perfect sense.) Made sense to me as well. If trends continue the way they are, I am anticipating there being a day when people try wearing them to job interviews. 
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| Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:22 pm |
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Carpathian Dark Princess
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I've never been asked any extraordinarily stupid questions, but after reading this thread, I kind wish I was asked more often. Here are some possibilities I've been formulating: "Are you a goth?""Damn straight! I helped sack those bitch-ass Romans and everything!" "What?" <--- probably didn't know that Goths were a real group of people "Why are you dressed in all black?"(If asked in winter): "Well, black does absorb more heat than white...." "Are you a vampire?""No! For your information, I'm a faerie!!" "Hey, it's the 21st century, not 1500!""*gasp* However did I wander into this land!? Help! Help! Will thou save this fayre mayden from the dragons above!?" "Are you a satanist? Do you sacrifice goats and drink their blood?""I don't know: are you a Catholic who drinks human blood and eats human flesh at communion?" "I heard goths are evil.""That's right! And you too can harness all of the powers of the darkside with just three easy payments of your soul! Plus, we get pizza with a topping of our choice for free on Fridays!" "Have you ever tried listening to stuff on MTV?""Dude, I'm trying to preserve my brain cells, not destroy them!" "Why are dressed so nicely?""Well, my other formal clothes - my stained t-shirt, sweatpants and crocs - are in the wash and this is all I had left.  " "I like your costume.""Thanks - I like yours too. Was it custom made?" On the race thing: "I didn't know black people could be goth...""Well why shouldn't I be? I'm black!"
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| Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:41 am |
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Black Milk
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Oh, I had thought the pyjama thing was a localised phenomonomonomonomon, kind of disappointing to hear it's a global epidemic 
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Calliope Aisha Cassandra
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Black Milk wrote: Oh, I had thought the pyjama thing was a localised phenomonomonomonomon, kind of disappointing to hear it's a global epidemic  and I'm afraid not only in english speaking countries...  Carpathian Dark Princess wrote: "Are you a satanist? Do you sacrifice goats and drink their blood?"
"I don't know: are you a Catholic who drinks human blood and eats human flesh at communion?"
The last time (a couple of weeks ago) I was asked it was a simple "Are you a satanist? Goths are satanists, so you must be one" and something rolled out of my mouth without any knowledge of my rational mind... "BRING IN THE GOAT! Let me get my knife, human blood goes well with goat blood in a sacrifice" Then I instinctively put a hand in my purse and burst with laughter... It was a collegue and he still keeps a distance, my comments: 1)  How the hell did it jump out of my mouth? 2)  why the hell was I quick enough to move the hand towards my purse? 3) I didn't think it was so easy to gain respect in the office 
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lostindreaming
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Andrias wrote: ...I live in FL by the way, the only other goths I've seen besides me and her are the big tripp wearing/trench coat mafia type metal heads. Most everyone (except a few old fogies I've met) are uterlly clueless as to what we're representing. When I left Sofla in 2008, that's exactly what I was seeing. Virtually everyone I saw on the streets looked more Metal than anything else. I'd mention Goth and they would start rattling of Black Metal bands. Or I would see someone who looked sort of Gothy, and they were really Rockabilly. There was a girl I met in Borders in Coral Springs who looked all Gothy, and she seemed to be into underground music, and she gave me her myspace info. When I looked at her profile it was full of hip hop stuff. Never could figure that one out. Younger people almost never recognized me as being a Goth, unless I met them at a club. I suppose preconceptions about age is a factor. But I could never figure out what they thought I was, if I wasn't a Goth! Sometimes I would only make a half-way effort to clean the black nail polish off after the weekend, and everyone I'd run into would say "oh, you've been painting!"
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diaz
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if asking me Why i wear black all the time?
my truth is: "it's my only way to Escape from my real life i hate"
(But I'm not saying it and not recommend to say this Because it causes more questions)
i just say: "Because if everyone was wearing the same thing the world was boring,you not think so?"
Hope I helped
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