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Top 15 Essential Goth Albums [continued] - Got any? I sure do!

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Postby DrXnY » Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:40 am

Ok, well, when I join this board ( not so long ago ) I saw the thread "Top 15 Essential Goth Albums" that blood_rose opened. But unfortunatly, it was locked, and I had some more stuff to add to the thread. I am sure that there are many of you here that have some Top Goth albums you want to post and didn't get a chance to. well, here's your chance! :P
Now, because the original thread was closed because it was turning to a "What is/is not goth music", I don't want that to happen here. If your not sure, please go check:
a) the internet
b) the original thread ( Top 15 essential goth albums )
c) ask around this board
then you can post!

OK, well, here's my list, it's more then 15, but whatever :P (it's in no particular order btw ):
1)Inkubus Sukkubus - Beast with two backs
2)Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
3)Stabbing Westward - Darkest Days
4)KMFDM - Angst
5)Bauhaus - Mask
6)Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out
7)Joy Division - Closer
8)Joy Division - Unknowen Pleasures
9)The Cure - Pornography
10)The Cure - Greatest Hits
11)The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
12)Siouxsie and the Banshees - JuJu
13)Christian Death - Catastrophe Ballet ( although Theatre of Pain is better, but i don't have it.... )
14)Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
15)Sisters of Mercy - A Slight Case of Overbombing
16)Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
17)The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
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Postby blood_rose » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:44 pm

Awesome... I was thinking about reopening this thread!


People, the reason this thread got locked last time is because people started posting "my favorite 15 albums" instead of the "Top 15 Gothic Albums of All Time"

Can we please keep this intelligent and post, oh, albums by goth bands? hmm? This ISN'T a favorite albums thread. If you want one, then create it.


This is a thread devoted to what you think are the 15 albums most important to the gothic subculture. As always, use your two eyes one keyboard proportions and if you don't know what to contribute, then simply don't post in this thread.

I think this is a cool topic and I'd really hate to lock it down again, but if stupidity prevails, then this thread will suffer the same fate as the first thread of its kind.





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Postby Merewena » Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:59 pm

Neat thread! I didn't post in the last one, so here goes...

• Bauhaus - In the Flat Field or Mask
• Siouxie and the Banshees - Peekaboo
• The Cure - Disintegration
• Joy Division - Closer
• Nick Cave - From Her to Eternity
• Sisters of Mercy - Some Girls Wander By Mistake
• Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
• Leonard Cohen - Songs From A Room: not strictly considered goth, but I think his work had a lot of influence on more canonical goth bands like the Sisters of Mercy (Cohen has a song called "SoM" and "Some Girls Wander By Mistake" is a line from his song "Teachers").
• VNV Nation - Empires
• Velvet Underground - Velvet Underground & Nico (Again, this is an unconventional choice, but I think their ethos had a lot of influence on goth music).
• KMFDM - Naive
• Dead Can Dance - Into the Labyrinth
• Einsturzende Neubauten - Silence is Sexy
• Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park
• The Smiths - The Smiths
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Postby DrXnY » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:50 am

d'oh!!! HOW COULD I FROGET DEAD CAN DANCE??? *bangs head on moniter*
ok, well, here's another album to add to my list:
18)Dead Can Dance - Into the Labyrinth ( Aion too is VERY recommanded )
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Postby hollywoodpinup » Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:03 pm

Alot of greats have already been mentioned. So, I'll just add three or four more. 1. Virgin prunes; sons find devils 2. Bauhaus; 1979-1983 ( greatest hits ) 3. Sisters of mercy; vision thing 4.Gitane Demone; with love and dementia 4. Peter Murphy; Cascade
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Postby Cryptic » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:16 pm

My list is admittedly more focused on influential albums than on representing the diversity of gothic music, though I did try to stray a bit from the deathrock genre.

In rough chronological order:

1. Joy Division – Unknown Pleasures
2. Bauhaus – In the Flat Field
3. Siouxsie and the Banshees – Juju
4. The Cure – Pornography
5. Christian Death – Only Theatre of Pain
6. UK Decay – Rising from the Dead (EP)
7.Southern Death Cult – Dreamtime
8. Sisters of Mercy – Some Girls Wander By Mistake*
9. Sisters of Mercy – A Slight Case of Overbombing
10. The Mission UK – Children
11. The Cure – Disintegration
12. Clan of Xymox – Medusa or Twist of Shadows
13. Switchblade Symphony – Serpentine Gallery
14. The Crüxshadows – Telemetry of a Fallen Angel
15. Diary of Dreams – One of 18 Angels

*Yes, I've used "best of/greatest hits" compilations as a cop-out in the case of the Sisters. I tried to avoid it elsewhere.
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Postby 74-1046041940 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:22 pm

I actually posted in the last thread but hey, I'm sure I can dig up another top 15 ;)

Oh yeah, some are repeats from my last post becuase it just wouldn't do to leave them out. ;)

1) Cinema Strange - The Astonished Eyes Of The Evening
2) Cinema Strange - Cinema Strange
3) Diva Destruction - Passion's Price
4) Murder At The Registry - The Black Breakfast E.P. (just for Epiwaltz! ) <3
5) Frank The Baptist - Different Degrees of Empty
6) Les Poetes Maudits
7) The Phantom Limbs - Applied Ignorance
8) The Cure - Pornography
9) Unto Ashes - Saturn Return
10) Abney Park - From Dreams Or Angels
11) Ausgang - Last Exit... -Best of Ausgang-
12) Voodoo Church - Voodoo Church
13) Alien Sex Fiend - The Legendary Batcave Tapes
14) Bauhaus - Mask
15) Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always

....a nice healthy mix of new and old in there :p
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Postby wrongdimensionboy » Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:42 pm

Hi board members. Here's my list, with box sets included (is that cheating?)

1. JOY DIVISION - Heart and Soul box set
2. DEAD CAN DANCE - 1981-1998
3. BAUHAUS - 1979-1983
4. COCTEAU TWINS - Pandora's Box: The Singles
5. CHRISTIAN DEATH - Only Theatre of Pain / Deathwish
6. NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS - Best of Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds
7. CURRENT 93 - Nature Unveiled
8. LEGENDARY PINK DOTS - Crushed Velvet Apocalypse
9. SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES - Best of Deluxe Sound and Vision
10. SISTERS OF MERCY - First And Last And Always
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Postby Klaus » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:02 pm

Yesss, okay! My list is more than likely going to include some bands that are not technically goth, but definitely show what goes into the scene... or something. I really am not too sure what I am saying but that is okay.

1) The Cure, "Pornography"
2) Siouxsie & the Banshees, "Peepshow"
3) Bauhaus, "Press Eject & Give Me the Tape [LIVE]"
4) Tori Amos, "From the Choirgirl Hotel"
5) Rasputina, "How We Quit the Forest"
6) Switchblade Symphony, "Serpentine Gallery"
7) Joy Division, "Closer"
8) The Sisters of Mercy, "Floodland"
9) Nine Inch Nails, "The Downward Spiral"
10) The Cure, "Disintegration"

& I am going to stop there because it looks as if I am going to start repeating artists. SO! I hope that 10/15 can suffice.
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Postby blood_rose » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:25 am

Klaus WroteColon1) The Cure, "Pornography"
2) Siouxsie & the Banshees, "Peepshow"
3) Bauhaus, "Press Eject & Give Me the Tape [LIVE]"
4) Tori Amos, "From the Choirgirl Hotel"
5) Rasputina, "How We Quit the Forest"
6) Switchblade Symphony, "Serpentine Gallery"
7) Joy Division, "Closer"
8) The Sisters of Mercy, "Floodland"
9) Nine Inch Nails, "The Downward Spiral"
10) The Cure, "Disintegration"

That works, except for two of them having no place whatsoever on a gothic album list....

Folks, I mean what I said. I personally LOVE Nine Inch Nails and Tori Amos. But I have the foresight to see that not only are they unrelated to the goth scene itself, but that they probably wouldn't be on a top 15 most important albums of all time list.



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Postby DrXnY » Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:03 pm

wellll..... nine inch nails is industrial, and on the original thread you posted some industrial bands......
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Postby Klaus » Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:18 pm

blood_rose WroteColon
Klaus WroteColon1) The Cure, "Pornography"
2) Siouxsie & the Banshees, "Peepshow"
3) Bauhaus, "Press Eject & Give Me the Tape [LIVE]"
4) Tori Amos, "From the Choirgirl Hotel"
5) Rasputina, "How We Quit the Forest"
6) Switchblade Symphony, "Serpentine Gallery"
7) Joy Division, "Closer"
8) The Sisters of Mercy, "Floodland"
9) Nine Inch Nails, "The Downward Spiral"
10) The Cure, "Disintegration"

That works, except for two of them having no place whatsoever on a gothic album list....

Ah, well. I thought that I could get away with that but obviously I was wroooong.

So, exuse me for that & let me replace my Tori Amos selection with Skinny Puppy's, "Doomsday: Back & Forth, Vol. 5 [LIVE]" & my NIN selection with, KMFDM's, "Angst." I assumed that you did not mean to not include industrial albums, by the way. Just NIN.
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Postby blood_rose » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:41 am

DrXnY WroteColonwellll..... nine inch nails is industrial, and on the original thread you posted some industrial bands......



While a lot of people say that NIN is industrial, my opinion is that Nine Inch Nails is on the mainstream side of industrial rock. Now while this is contested by a lot of people, I think that everyone can agree that Tori Amos is neither goth, nor industrial.





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Postby RiffRaff » Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:40 am

01: The Cure - Pornography
02: Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out
03: Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
04: Einstürzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch (or Haus der Lüge)
05: Cinema Strange - S/T
06: Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
07: Birthday Party - Junk Yard
08: Nick Cave and the Bad Seed - From Her to Eternity
09: Switchblade Symphony - Serpentine Gallery
10: Joy Division - Closer
11: Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
12: Faith and the Muse - Elyria
13: Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance
14: Mental Destruction - The Intensity of Darkness
15: KMFDM - What do You Know Deutchland?
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Postby Squiggles » Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:15 pm

1. Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
You have to be either incredibly naive or in willful denial to say they had no influence on the scene. Really. Showcases the transition from artsy punk to goth before it had a name.

2. Joy Division - Closer
Heavy influence on the sounds of the later '80s gothic rock bands. Helped lay the foundational sound of deep bass and drums with light ethereal guitars.

3. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Juju
Their first album was a powerful expression of punk rock during the '70s, their second album showed they couldn't keep the punk thing going forever, and their third album saw them experimenting much more in the post-punk arena. Here, their fourth album showcases one of the strongest results of such experimentation, with light ethereal guitars, strong tribal drumming, and heavy bass. Night Shift should be considered a gothic anthem.

4. Specimen - Batastrophe EP
Maybe the album itself isn't as widely influential as to warrant spot #4 here. But consider first that this is Specimen. If it wasn't for these guys, there probably wouldn't have been a Batcave, and without the Batcave, most of you probably wouldn't be here today. :p

5. The Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
Andrew Eldritch almost single-handedly set forth every stereotype in the book for the next generation of goths, and then vehemently denied the label. Formed the signature drum-machine and deep voice sound that would be copied by many future bands.

6. Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
Yep, here's the L.A. deathrock scene, with one of the most influential bands of the scene. While Rozz hadn't yet fully matured as a singer here, it still showcases some of their signature songs.

7. Alien Sex Fiend - Who's Been Sleeping in my Brain?
Arguably the band more associated with the Batcave than anyone else. Helped give the scene a quirky sense of humour among all the dark imagery.

8. And Also the Trees - Virus Meadow
Yes, they're being listed before the Cure. This is because they pretty much were the main influence on Robert Smith et. al. to begin foraying into the realm of depressing and dark music. This one showcases some moody songs heavy on the reverb with deadpan vocals. Slow Pulse Boy is a definite fan-favourite song.

9. The Cure - Pornography
This has to be one of the darkest albums ever conceived. 8 songs of pure angst and depression that will knock you in the head and leave you bleeding from the wrists. In fact, Robert Smith decided to never do anything like this ever again after the album was finished. This (along with Faith) was the *real* reason the Cure was considered a goth band, not Mr. Smith's weird signature makeup and back-combed hair.

10. Clan of Xymox - Medusa
Another 4AD band from the '80s. This is an adventure through more of an existential darkness than an angsty one, and it probably exerted more influence on the electronic side of gothic music. Definitely their best offering before the line-up began changing along with their style.

11. Virgin Prunes - If I Die, I Die...
One of the weirdest bands ever. This has some of their best songs ever, including Pagan Lovesong and Baby Turns Blue.

12. Kommunity FK - The Vision and the Voice
Another influential L.A. deathrock band. This album really shows some of the parallels between the L.A. and British scenes regarding the evolution of punk to goth, and it has some of their better songs, too.

13. Fields of the Nephilim - Dawnrazor
Picking up where the Sisters left off. :p
Actually, that's not giving them enough credit. They really popularised the bleak western imagery (even though Theatre of Hate, Southern Death Cult, and Gun Club have all used it before), and the slight country twang showed how amorphous and liberal the scene's music had become by the late '80s. Well, after the amalgam of post-punk, deathrock, industrial, darkwave, and other such genres, can you really give a concise definition of the "gothic sound" anymore?

14. Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance
Another 4AD band. This was back when they used some spooky guitars and some interesting percussion. This really sounds nothing like their other albums, as far as I know. Frontier is a powerful piece.

15. Cocteau Twins - Garlands
Yet another 4AD band. Before they began playing more lush and pretty sounds, they had a drum machine and some tinny distorted guitars. Much like Dead Can Dance, their debut album really doesn't sound much like their later stuff. Just don't lose any sleep trying to decipher their lyrics.

16. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual
Just kidding.

I realise I have a heavy old-school and deathrock bias here, but so do influential goth albums, I think. ;)
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